Wong Kar-Wai interview: the revered film director on returning to his
first love - kung fu
He's best known for his romances, but his latest film The Grandmaster sees him
on full-on fighting form; 'We wanted real martial arts, not movie martial arts,’
he says
By James Mottram
Published on Saturday 06 December 2014 in The Independent
“I sometimes compare making a film to cooking,” Wong Kar-wai tells me.
“Some dishes need to be stewed while others need to be fried.” It’s an
intriguing analogy for the Hong Kong auteur’s career. Both methods have produced
sublime results, whether it’s his flash-fry films – like Chungking Express, his
international breakthrough film, shot during the three-month hiatus on his 1994
martial arts spectacular Ashes of Time – or more simmered-to-perfection works
like the great love story In The Mood For Love, which took 15 months to shoot.
Nevertheless Wong has garnered over the years a reputation for being “slow”,
which he resents. “The time I invest in a film isn’t a choice but rather
something dictated by the subject matter,” he says. As well as bad luck; 2004’s
meditative sci-fi 2046, a follow-up of sorts to In the Mood for Love, took four
years to complete because the shoot was interrupted by the SARS epidemic. His
new film – and the tenth of his career – The Grandmaster, also had its fair
share of misfortune, with star and regular muse Tony Leung twice fracturing his
arm and delaying production.
Wong has been stewing this latest effort ever since he hatched the idea in 1999;
indeed he has dedicated the past seven years to researching and shooting The
Grandmaster, ever since finishing his 2007 English-language film My Blueberry
Nights.
It tells the story of Ip Man, the legendary kung fu master who taught Enter the
Dragon star Bruce Lee, and brings Lee back to a genre that he last explored 20
years ago in Ashes of Time. Since then, Wong has become a master of melancholic
romance more than large-scale spectacle; but in The Grandmaster, casting
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon’s Zhang Ziyi as the love interest, he fuses both
in what is his most expensive production to date.
At least it hasn’t aged him. Now 56, Wong looks much as he did when we first met
in 1997 during the publicity for Happy Together, a drama about a gay couple in
Buenos Aires that won him Best Director in Cannes – right down to his
ever-present shades. “He’s probably the only guy in the world who can pull off
wearing sunglasses indoors”, as one interviewer put it, adding as it does to the
alluring sense of mystery that swirls around the man and his movies.
In interview, Wong seems unflappable, yet he admits his latest film was a
“gruelling” experience; all in all, it took so long to produce that two rival
films Ip Man and Ip Man 2, starring Donnie Yen, made it into cinemas first. The
Grandmaster shoot, which began in 2009, was blighted by “extreme weather” in
mainland China and after the on-off three-year shoot came to an end, one of his
stuntmen, Ju Kun, was one of the passengers who lost their lives aboard the
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
There’s no clue to the film’s troubled production history on screen, however:
the end result, whose costumes and cinematography were nominated for Oscars, is
sumptuous and enthralling. “I always wanted to tell a story about the rich
tradition of Chinese martial arts, rather than [using it] just as a vehicle for
kicks and punches,” he says. Ip Man’s life proved perfect. “What I learned
[about him] blew me away.” Beginning in 1936, he deliberately sets The
Grandmaster in the early part of his subject’s life, long before he ever tutored
Bruce Lee in the art of wing chun, the kung fu style he popularised.
“Ip Man was an extraordinary man who lived during extraordinary times,” he says.
“He was born to a rich family when the country was still a monarchy and lived
through various civil wars, revolutions, the Japanese invasion and the
establishment of the Republic. By the time he was an old man, he was broke and
living in Hong Kong.” You see the admiration in Wong’s eyes. “Ip Man was a
survivor who preserved his ideals in the face of many hardships.”
Anything but a conventional biopic, it also features fight scenes far removed
from the romanticised style of the wuxia pian seen in Ang Lee’s Crouching Tiger,
Hidden Dragon and Wong’s own Ashes of Time. “The Grandmaster is much more
realistic and closer to the wushu tradition,” says Wong, and here is where it
breaks ground; it’s a rarity to see an arthouse kung fu film, it being a
fighting style usually reserved for mass-market action flicks .
The film marks his seventh collaboration with Tony Leung – a relationship that
stretches back to 1990’s Days of Being Wild. But just as important to the film
is his collaboration with Yuen Woo-ping, the celebrated martial arts
choreographer who worked on the stunts in The Matrix. “We both insisted on
representing the different fighting styles in an authentic way,” says Wong,
“similar to how Bruce Lee approached his fight scenes; we wanted real martial
arts in The Grandmaster, not movie martial arts.”
While Wong recently told Sight & Sound magazine that he’s spent “30
years…watching kung fu films”, the truth is it’s been even longer. He grew up on
a street filled with martial arts schools. “When I was a kid, martial arts were
extremely popular in Hong Kong. They were everywhere: movies, TV shows, radio
programmes and novellas. My mother was a big fan so I grew up watching [Hong
Kong martial arts studio] Shaw Brothers films – particularly the ones starring
Lau Kar-leung – and Bruce Lee movies.”
Born in Shanghai, Wong left for Hong Kong with his mother when he was five; the
plan was for his older brother and sister, and his hotel manager father, to join
them but the onset of the Cultural Revolution meant the borders were suddenly
closed. While he wrote regularly to his siblings back in Shanghai, he had a
lonely childhood, surrounded by adults and able to speak only Mandarin. “I
didn’t understand Cantonese, and we didn’t have any relatives. I became like an
observer.” Cinema became his lifeline.
After school, he spent two years on a graphic design course, before moving into
television, as a screenwriter, and then film. He wrote scripts in the 1980s,
before making his directorial debut in 1988 with As Tears Go By, a crime
melodrama borrowing heavily from Martin Scorsese’s Mean Streets. And come his
next film, 1990’s Days of Being Wild, a wistful mood piece about mis-spent youth
in 1960s Hong Kong, his stylistic hallmarks were already becoming evident: a
lush palette, ineffably cool soundtrack and a fascination with memory.
Despite being beloved overseas – his popularity spearheaded by Quentin
Tarantino, who released Chungking Express in the US via his short-lived
distribution outfit Rolling Thunder – Wong has never really cracked the English
language market in the way his compatriot John Woo has. My Blueberry Nights, a
road movie with Norah Jones, was a rare miscalculation, while The Lady From
Shanghai – a proposed film with Nicole Kidman – never got off the ground. Would
he consider another English-spoken movie? “I’ve been reading some scripts
lately,” he nods.
He’s equally elusive when I ask how he feels about the fact that The Grandmaster
now exists in three different versions: a Chinese cut, a festival cut and a more
linear version that was released in the US by The Weinstein Company, and will be
shown here. “It’s difficult to say. Each version speaks to a different
audience,” he says, diplomatically. “It really is like picking a favourite
child.”
At least the trying nature of the production didn’t dent his enthusiasm. He’s
already shaping up to direct The Ferryman, again with Leung, a story based on
the best-selling novel I Belonged To You by Zhang Jiajia. Despite recently
receiving a lifetime achievement award at the Goa Film Festival (dedicating it
to his wife, Chan Ye-cheng), this masterchef is not planning retirement just
yet. “To be honest with you,” he smiles. “I feel I’m only halfway done.”
‘The Grandmaster’ is on general release
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